Purivada,
I have to respond to what you typed because I know you didn't type it for nothing. And besides I want to. You had a good post very much in depth. Lovely!
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Don't hate on the game, especially if you haven't tried programs like these yet. Don't call it a scam unless you know yourself because you were scammed (but remember one doesn't speak for the multitude out there).
Who says we didn't try it yet?
You never stated that you tried RewardBull or any other freebie site. You said, "What Foberswife meant was that those "offers" are not truly free. In many cases, you have to put up a few dollars to buy something or else you have to apply for some sort of promotion -such as a credit card, etc.
That makes it "not free" because you either spend something or complete a "free" application that costs you your time (and tends to get your email addy spammed). To me, that's not exactly free.
Besides, most people now recognize that those free ipods offers (and many other free offers) are scams. No one ever wins anything." And you still have yet to state what freebies sites scammed you. Well? Let me know which ones because I've done several. And I'm always open to here which ones have scammed people. I don't want to get scammed by ones that you have been scammed by (I might do my own research, but to save time I might just take your word for it).
I only call scams scams once I know for sure that they are a scam.
Ok, well which freebies sites have scammed you. Let me know. There's a thread on this forum about which PT programs pay and don't - aren't the members supposed to be specific? So, how come you can't on this topic? You seem to have some knowlege of them. So, c'mon shoot.
Like the mods pointed out, a referral pyramid does not make a program not a scam.
I never said that. I did say, "...there are ways to find out a sites legitimacy." Meaning there are freebies sites (because I was referring to freebies sites when I stated that) out there that are not legit.
It just means that you are now promoting a program to other people that they most likely should not be part of in the first place.
WOA! 
WOA! I am promoting a program that people most likely (whatever that means) should not be a part of in the first place? What on earth...? Forget the part about me promoting (I'm merely telling my experiences to maybe help with other people's research on these type of programs). But the ending in that statement is KRAZEEEE :D. There's nothing wrong with the legit freebies sites. Can you do me a favor? Would you do some research on FreePay and tell me what you come up with? Tell me what you found on proof. Hey, better yet you give it try. And do not pay for any offer. I'm not giving you my referral link or anything, just go to FreePay.com. or some other top 5 legit freebies site. I just mention that one because it's number 1. Don't take my word for it do your own research. I did and that's why I'm in getting my freebies. But there are several. Go to RewardBull (since it's the topic for this thread). I don't know how they work. And research entails doing it yourself. Oh, taste and see. Tell me how many freebies sites have you tried. Which ones have scammed you. How did they scam you. Did you read the Terms and Conditions, etc? Give me grave details please. Give anyone who comes to this post. Let us know your personal experiences so that we may better assess our own opinion. Help us do our research by using you and your testimony on the freebies site you were scammed or not on. Wouldn't that be fair? Of course. You know you said that you have already done research. Could you please share?
For it to be "free" for them, they will have to dupe others to join as well.
That's not true at all. I didn't. I am very up front and very detailed when getting referrals. If you are a deceiving kind of individual then maybe duping would apply.
Not everyone has to do it. And the tripped out thing about it is once they go to the site and sign up they don't have to go green at all. If they don't like the offers they won't sign up. It's that simple so. But you can't just join without completing an offer. And some offers ARE 100% free. This goes to show that you don't know too much. Or maybe you felt like you had to dupe others in to join and were not successful at being deceitful so you figured it was just one big scam. I could be wrong. I don't understand why you feel you have to dupe others to join. If they don't go green (by not completing an offer properly or just changing their mind on completing one) then that's one more referral you have to try to find). Duping, naw. Unless that's your perception of the game. Now, if you told them that you would trade something and don't after they've gone green then yeah you've duped someone. As this is done by some traders of the game, unfortunately.
Getting others to join a scam just so you can get something for free doesn't make it right.
Such a contradictoring statement. It's not a scam if you get something free. Is it? Maybe in your world of perception. I thought the main part of being a scam is if the company doesn't "pay-out" so-to-speak. Am I wrong? Hmmm....no I don't think so. :D
Now, having said that, I do know there are a VERY FEW sites out there that are giving some stuff away for free.
Can you put a numer to very few and of what market (giveaways by random pick or contests, what? That's not sarcasm. It's a real question.)
I run most of those legit sites myself, because there are precious few honest owners out there nowadays.
Most of those out of how many legit sites. I believe you are an honest owner. I do, seriously.
I haven't looked in to your site specifically, but I am familiar with the $1 authorization offer.
FreePay is not my site. I don't own any of those freebies sites. I do believe in them because I know that not everything is a scam. I do know that you have to try it for yourself to really know. Some people call things a scam because they are mad at the customer service. Or they are not satisfied with some part of the site. And to show their frustration they call it a scam. What I own is a Photography website (no not porn or nudity crap). Well what sites have you looked into in regards to freebie sites like FreePay, etc?
The $1 isn't the only thing you give them. You also give them your email and personal information. If newbies who you dupe into signing up are forced to wade through new junk mail as a result of signing up, then it is NOT free.
Purivada, here's a little nugget on life because you are acting like you don't know. Everything in life comes at a price (not only money). But I know you know that already. So, if you could get a brand spankin' new 10,000 sq. ft. mansion on the water in exchange for your email address not money you wouldn't do it? Is that what you're telling me? Get real. A home that big is expensive and so are these gadgets now-a-days and if that's how it works to get a free one. Hey I didn't pay for my email account. Who cares. You can always unsubscibe to the junk emails if they bother you that much. And again, I do not dupe people I give them all the details including the offers, cost (if any), before giving them my referral link. I don't want to see a bunch of referrals who have gone yellow and don't plan on going green. So, why not be upfront. It saves me getting my hopes all up. I even give them websites on what people think of the offers, etc. It's all part of their research.
It might not cost you $$$, but time is money. So, you figure it out.
I have already. And I know everything comes at a some sort of "price". And Purivada, time is not money, baby. And it's too bad that you allow money to run your life as such. Time is time not money. If time were money wouldn't it be called money? Time's definition has no comparison to money's definition. Let's get it right. That is your perception.
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Oops, that post was not for Shells post, but the Admin and Moderator and everyone else who wants and needs to know the truth about the freebies world.
You've got to try it for yourself.
Let me educate you for a minute...
We know the truth about the freebies world, my friend. I am certain that we have a good deal more experience and knowledge about these things than you do.
Oooh, I don't think you do. At first I was thinking maybe they do know more, but after reading your posts word for word, I know you don't. If you do answer my questions above. Take me through the process in grave detail (because detail is very important) of how the freebies sites work from an owner's perceptive and from a member's perceptive.
I also have several other very successful companies. I am not your typical webmaster who is struggling to get by. I have made my fortune, so I take the time to research and inform others on various scams and point out which programs are legit simply because I like helping others find their way.
You haven't done it yet. All these words and you have yet to say what freebies sites are scams. Funny.
Here at the forum, the mods and many other members also take the time to research and be helpful themselves.
Blah, blah, blah...
Of course, we do not mind you having your own opinion.
Well thank you and I don't mind you all having your opinions either. I appreciate your comments.
However, do not presume to know more than I do about these things. Do not assume that we have no experience. And, do not presume to have to spread the truth --as if we are not. If you follow those suggestions, then you will be better off.
I never said you did not have the experience. If I did quote me. I do know more, don't get mad. Your knowledge is only on freebies sites that are scams (but then again I don't even think you know that because you haven't stated it). What is stopping you from telling me which ones are scams and which ones scammed you?
Warning: Sometimes I do not feel inclined to give a detailed explanation, but since surveyor argued the point; I will say that it IS possible to get a "free" (meaning no $$$) ipod.
So, which sites are legit (other than FreePay)? Let's see if you know that answer.
But, you have to sell your soul (by referring others) to the "spam/scam" devil first! lol
If that was sarcasm I respond in saying...that means that I would have to sell my soul to the devil in order to get a free item from you since you, yourself, run sites that give away free stuff. Hmmm? Your own word bit cha hard in the behind.
Thanks for the discussion.
Surveyor
That took up too much time for reals.
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 02:19 AM
but you don't really have to
Foberswife 
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You've asked for an investment after all! :thumbsdn:
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I can't take it! First paragraph, Foberswife.
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