Questions about Randomizers..

Questions about Randomizers.. Just leave some info please?

#1 APesT

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Posted 13 November 2004 - 03:29 AM

My question is how many people will actually sign up to a randomizer and well what do you look for in one before you will sign up???

What are the determining factors....

-cost
-trust
-rep
-what???

Just leave a little note please.

Thanx
APesT

#2 Guest_crash_*

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 08:51 PM

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My personal opinion is...stay away from them.

But if you decide that randomizers are for you then look for the following:

Cost: Cheaper is better, overall people dont like to put there hard earned money at risk, while getting your inbox full of messages saying "you received $10.00" would be great, it is very unlikely to happen. Most people will not quickly spend $25.00 on a randomizer($10.00 to sponsor + $10.00 to random affiliate + $5.00 to admin = $25.00).
Some people may be more willing to go for the $5.00 ones, but I would look for even less than that. Why put more money than that at risk...start small, Personally if I was to do it(which I wouldnt) I would look for the $1.00 or $2.00 ones, people are more willing to take a chance at those amounts. If you have success with that you can always reinvest the money in a higher randomizer(profits,NOT your own money!)

Be aware that you need at least three sales to turn a profit!

Next look for one that is very professional looking, and it must be an eye catcher, if its not pleasing to the eye right away, people will move on instead of taking the time to read it, and if they dont read it....you missed an opportunity for a sale.

If you want a shot at making a profit with one, you need to be at the ground floor, get in on a brand new one with an extremely low membership. The wisdom behind this is simple, you stand a better chance at getting random payments from others advertising, At least while its new you stand a 1 in 10 or 1 in 20(whatever the membership number is) of getting a random payment. If there is already 3000 members in it, what are the odds your random number is gonna come up when someone is seriously looking to join? 1 in 3000 ? Nope worse than that because 3000 have already joined taking away from the pool of people looking to join.

Many people will join a randomizer(thats all they do) based on the above theory alone, they will work it till the membership base has grown(already making there profits from building the membership) then move on to a newly established one to start the cycle again. Since they have already made profits on the previous ones any random payments they might receive is "icing on the cake".

As soon as you join...PROMOTE...like a mad man, concentrate on it solely till your at least in the profit(I would promote it non stop till the membership has grown significantly) you are doing it to make money and you only have a short window of opportunity with them befor they collapse. Use every means available(always check the TOS in any program you advertise it in to ensure that they accept advertising randomizers, IE: safelist, forums, traffic exchanges PTR's ect...) to advertises.

If you want to advertise it right, be patient, while your looking for the right randomizer for you, build as many "credits" in as many programs you intend to advertise in(the more the better!), that way as soon as you join a randomizer , you can flood the market with advertisements, thus enabling you to grab as much of the market share as possible. Dont waste your time advertising in autosurfs, you wont make a sale with those.

The only guarantee with randomizers is that someone will always lose out, someone is always on the bottom rung of the chain, left high and dry, in the case of randomizers, the numbers are stagering. Play it smartly, and hopefully it wont be you.

The only true winners from each sale are the owners! The admins are the only ones who benefit from every single sale! At minimal cost to them, set up cost...hosting...advertising at the begining....thats about it. When the sales finally stop for long enough, they dissapear into cybernight, to pop up with a new one.

I hope this helps if you decide to use randomizers. You originally asked for a "little note", unfortunately I suck at trying to keep post short, and on a topic such as this you want as much info going in as possible.

Good luck to your success!

crash

P.S. If anyone notices anything I may have missed please feel free to jump in.

P.P.S. As an after thought...there is places that you can join in a downline(always check the TOS) which may not be a bad idea, could be good for at least one sale.

#3 Guest_daddypi_*

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Posted 03 March 2005 - 10:45 PM

Randomizers. Well, what can I say about randomizers. In a short phrase.. they don't work. Though I won't post as an indepth and long post, as crash did, I will just personally say that in my experience.. few, if any actively participate in these programs. These kinds of programs are some of the oldest MLM/referring type programs on the internet, and people have finally began catch on to them.

Not to mention, that randomizers by themselves, are classified as ponzi schemes and are illegal in the United States, as well as most of the western hemisphere.

#4 Guest_billdisc_*

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 03:29 PM

Forgive my lack of experience on the site.

Is it my imagination or does everyone want to get rich quick? without working?

It seems that if all the effort that was put into these schemes were put into seeking legitimate enterprises, the efforts would be more rewarding.

I hope that I have not offended anyone. I just curious as to what the complexion of the forum was all ablut.

billdisc

#5 puravida

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:11 PM

Hi Bill,

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Is it my imagination or does everyone want to get rich quick? without working?

Yes, unfortunately this is the case with many people. People in the U.S., Canada, and the U.K. tend to have a more realistic approach, but most people trying to make money online come from China, India, Russia, etc (since they make up most of the world's population, I suppose).

The Chinese, Indians, and Russians are some of the worst as far as thinking it is better to just cheat and steal and they go for the get-rick-quick schemes more than anyone.

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It seems that if all the effort that was put into these schemes were put into seeking legitimate enterprises, the efforts would be more rewarding.

I completely agree.

In this forum, the active members and myself try to separate the "legitimate" programs from the "crap". I also give advice for those wanting to move beyond surveys and making peanuts to guide those interested (and capable) to become webmasters.

Here's a link to a thread of this type to give an idea:

http://www.linksmile.com/forum/index.php?s...&st=0&#entry266

Best Regards,

Brandon

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#6 Guest_billdisc_*

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:51 PM

Brandon,

The last two times I clicked on your email to return to the this site my Internet Explorer crashed. I tested other email returns and had no problem.

Do you have any idea as to whats happening?

billdisc

#7 puravida

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:54 PM

Hi Bill,

Although that is strange, it shouldn't have anything to do with this forum specifically. This forum is based on a very stable version of a very popular forum software. I haven't heard of anyone else having any trouble.

Best Regards,

Brandon

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